Staying Numismatically Busy During a Quarantine
With most of the country in some a state of quarantine, there may be time to expand our numismatic knowledge. Collecting can be fun, but learning about your collection will give it more meaning.
If you continue to watch cable news, you are going to think the world will end tomorrow. While the situation is serious and deserves attention, you need to find time to think about something else.
Keeping Up With The News of Numismatics
When you turn off the television, here is where you can read about the latest in numismatics:
- news.coinsblog.ws – full press releases and pictures from news sources without commentary.
- coinworld.com – Coin World magazine online
- numismaticnews.net – Numismatic News online; look on the right side of the page for the links to their other (former Krause Publication) magazines.
- CoinNews.net – One of the oldest online news sites that does a good job in covering numismatic-related news.
- CoinUpdate.com – A news site that is more of an aggregator of numismatic-related news.
- CoinWeek.com – A good, comprehensive site on numismatic-related news.
- CoinsWeekly.com – Germany-based website (in English) with more international news. You should subscribe to their newsletter. You will receive an email summary of the world’s numismatic news every Thursday.
Precious Metals Market News
If you want to read about the markets, there are many news sites to read. However, if you are only looking for news from a source that concentrates on the metals market, then Kitco (kitco.com) is the proverbial 800-pound gorilla in this space. Kitco employs analysts and writers to look at the market from different angles.
Amazingly, the wealth of information Kitco provides is free. The free data, including the free charts and graphs that many websites use, is supported by advertisements, selling bullion, and a premium news service for the serious investor.
Podcasts
Podcasts have been around for many years dating back to the release of Apple’s iPod. In the beginning, podcasts were simple audio files passed around the Internet by maverick content creators to share knowledge, entertain, educate, or have fun. There are also video podcasts for on-demand viewing.
Today, podcasting is a big business. Many media outlets are producing podcasts. There are also companies whose business model is to create podcasts. There is at least one podcast for every taste. There are also many ways to listen to podcasts. Rather than discuss it here, search for “how to listen to a podcast” to learn more.
Here are three numismatic-related podcasts for your listening pleasure:
- Coin Show Radio – The oldest of the numismatic-related podcasts. The Hosts, Mike & Matt, have a little fun bringing the news and talking coins.
- CoinWeek Podcast – Although it has been around a while, I keep forgetting to subscribe when I pick up my phone, so I did it now. I will let you know what I think at some point.
- Coin World Podcast – The newest entry in the numismatic-related podcast world has become one of my favorite podcasts. One of the reasons to listen to this podcast is for the interviews. Jeff Stark and Chris Bullfinch are good interviewers and deserve a listen.
That should keep you busy for a while. Next time, I will look at other resources.
BOOKMARKS
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Honoring Mike Castle
Collectors have very few friends in congress. In most cases, members of congress usually do not care for collectors. While some will sponsor and promote a few commemorative issues, most of the time they are interested in promoting the cause that will receive the surcharges from the sales. But for 18 years, numismatist have had one friend in congress: Mike Castle (R-DE).
Michael Newbold Castle, 71, from Wilmington, has been the representative at-large from Delaware since 1993. As a direct descendant of Benjamin Franklin, Castle has worked in public service in Delaware since serving as Deputy Attorney General in 1965-1966. Castle rose through the ranks by being elected to the Delaware State Legislature, State Senate, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, then U.S. Representative. His long service to Delaware is legendary. But that was not enough for Castle to win the Republican primary for the U.S. Senate last week.
Castle has made his first indelible mark on numismatics within a few years of his arrival in the House. In 1996, Castle consolidated several commemorative requests into the United States Commemorative Coin Act of 1996 which became Public Law Number 104-329 ([text] [pdf]). This act authorized the following commemorative coins:
- 1997 Franklin Delano Roosevelt
- 1997 Jackie Robinson
- 1997 National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial
- 1998 Black Revolutionary War Patriots
- 1999 Dolley Madison
- 1999 George Washington Bicentennial of his Death
- 1999 Yellowstone National Park
The Commemorative Coin Act of 1996 also included a “study” that lead to the 50 States Commemorative Coin Program Act, Public Law Number 105-124 ([text] [pdf]). Aside from creating the 50 State Quarters Program, the law also authorized the Sacagawea Dollar and the 2003 First Flight Commemorative. Castle worked with the American Numismatic Association and other numismatic organizations to craft a bill that lead to one of the biggest increase in numismatic interests ever. The 50 State Quarters program was one of the most successful programs ever.
Another idea of Mike Castle’s was a coin series to honor past presidents. Castle first introduced the Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2005 in the house (as H.R. 902). Even those the version introduced in the senate was the one that eventually became Public Law 109-145 ([text] [pdf]), it was Castle’s idea.
Probably the last significant piece of coin legislation that Castle will sponsor is the America’s Beautiful National Parks Quarter Dollar Coin Act of 2008, Public Law Number 110-456 ([text] [pdf]). As a follow-up to the 50 State Quarter program, the America the Beautiful Quarters® Program will feature reverse designs of national parks or other national sites from all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S insular territories. The program started this year and will run through 2021.
Mike Castle will not appear on a ballot for the first time since 1966. His current term in the House of Representatives will end on January 3, 2011. He ends his career in the House being recognized as the numismatists’ friend after working on the passage of landmark coin-related legislation aimed at the collector. For his service to our hobby, I honor Castle’s accomplishment and wish him well in his (forced) retirement.
Another Call To Action!
Following the lead of Italy, Greece has asked the State Department’s Cultural Property Advisory Committee (CPAC) for import restrictions be imposed on cultural property.
Even though there has not been a decision made on the Italian request, the Ancient Coin Collectors Guild (ACCG) is asking for your help in responding to the CPAC. I said before, this can damage the hobby for everyone. It can start with Italy and Greece, but where does it stop? Will Canada come after my collection of Canadian coins? What about the 1912 Russian banknotes my relatives brought with them when they landed at Ellis Island? Once this snowball begins to roll downhill, what is to prevent congress from declaring pattern coins as contraband? It reminds me of a numismatic version of the “First they came…” attributed Pastor Martin Niemöller about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets.
This time, the State Department is using the facilities of regulations.gov to facilitate the response. First I recommend reading the notice “Receipt of Cultural Property Request from the Government of the Hellenic Republic.” Then go to this article on the Cultural Property Observer blog that has five good talking points for you to include in your response. Then write your note in a separate window because there is a 20-minute time limit on the regulations.gov page.
When you are ready, you can go to the comments page and upload the file or copy and paste your note in the space provided.
According to Wayne G. Sayles, Executive Director of ACCG, “Don’t worry about getting the content perfect, just state in your own words why you oppose import restrictions on ancient coins. It doesn’t need to be long, nor eloquent.”
The comment period ends on September 22, 2010 and the meeting of the CPAC is scheduled for October 12, 2010. Please lend your support before a government comes after your favorite collectibles!
Selling Your Scrap Gold
With gold climbing to record levels, there seems to be as many people who want to sell their gold as well as people who want to buy your gold. The problem is that there are buyers looking to maximize their profit at your expense. When it comes to the gold trade, knowledge is the most powerful defense you have from getting a bad deal. I recently helped a friend sell old gold jewelry, pieces that my friend described as gold scrap. It was an eye opening experience.
Like a lot of people, my friend looked online and saw that the price of gold was around $1,200 per ounce and decided to sell gold items he had around the house including some pieces that belonged to his grandmother. He gathered his items and went to a local store that offered to buy his gold at a fraction of what he thought it was worth. My friend did not understand the reasons the dealer provided and came to me to explain what he heard.
How much gold do you have?
As he spread the gold trinkets on the table in front of us, he asked why the gold dealer was weighing his gold in grams. Grams are a convenient measure for calculating the weight and cost. I set my scale on the table, set it to display the weight in grams, and weighed 246.4 grams of gold. The first thing my friend ask that if he had 226.4 grams of gold (about 8.7 ounces), then why was he not offered around $10,440 (using a spot price of $1200). I told him that the pile of gold jewelry was not a full 226.4 grams of gold.
After my friend gave me a quizzical look, I picked up a larger piece of the jewelry, my loupe, and started look for the maker’s mark and the content information. After a moment, I found an “18K” mark declaring that the item was made from 18 karat gold. I explained that the piece was made from 18-karat gold meaning that it was made using an alloy of 75-percent gold and 25-percent something else. Unless the “something else” is platinum, what is the alloy is usually irrelevant. I explained that the purity of gold is measured in karats (or carats). Karats are based on a 24-point scale used to express the percentage of gold (or other precious metals) in the item. Typically, you will find that most gold jewelry is represented by one of the following purity designations:
| Karat | Fineness |
| 24 | .999 |
| 22 | .916 |
| 18 | .750 |
| 14 | .585 |
| 10 | .417 |
I weighed the item and found it weighed 21.2 grams. Since it is made from 18 karat (75-percent) gold, the piece really contains 15.9 grams of gold. A conversion program told me that the piece has 0.56 ounces of gold. If the spot price is $1,200, the item has $672 worth of gold, right?
One fact that most people do not realize is that the price of gold is stated in Troy Ounces. The Troy weight system has been adapted from the Roman monetary system that was based on their standard bronze bar and 12 smaller bars that made up a fraction of that larger bar. Thus, there are 12 Troy ounces in a Troy pound. When weights and measures were standardized, the Troy ounce was standardized as 31.1034768 grams.
When we weigh items in the United States, we normally use the avoirdupois system which we sometime call the English system. Avoirdupois weight is an adaption of the British monetary system (pound, shilling, and pence) and is heavier than the Troy weight system. According to the standard, the troy pound is 5,760 grains while the avoirdupois pound is heavier at 7,000 grains.
To find out how much the gold in piece weighs in troy ounces, we divide 15.9 grams by 31.1 (rounded). The result was a weight of .5112 troy ounces. With gold worth $1,200 per troy ounce, the item actually contains $611 worth of gold.
After removing the gold coins from his pile (gold coins will be discussed in a later post), we started to identify each item by the purity. All of the items were 10, 14, or 18 karat gold in fineness. The piles were weighed and the totals calculated. When we were finished, we calculated that he really had 90.6 grams of gold. That is close to 2.91 troy ounces of gold or $3,192 with gold closing at $1,200 per troy ounce.
What is a fair price for the gold?
When you look up the spot or market price of gold, the price given is the trading price for one troy ounce of gold. This is a wholesale price that dealers use to sell to each other. When looking at prices, this is sometimes called the bid price. The bid price is the highest price someone is willing to pay for gold while the ask price is the offer price. The spot price is the last successful bid on the trading market. When negotiating with dealers, they will use the spot price from the last time the market closed. They will rarely use intra-day prices since it may be too volatile.
The first thing you will have to remember that if you are selling to a dealer, you are not selling your item at a retail price. You are not selling at a wholesale price, either. You are selling to the first person in a long processing chain where everyone is looking to make a profit from the transaction. The chain could look like:
- The dealer buys the gold from you and then sells the gold to a gold refiner.
- The gold refiner will process the item by removing adornments that are not gold. This could be anything from stones in the item to stainless steel pins. While they do not do a perfect job, there is a lot of labor involved in the process.
- The gold refiner melts the items separating the gold from everything else. The leftover metal is refined and will be used to change the purity of the final product.
- Some refiners make their own wholesale products including gold wire, gold leaf, smaller gold bars used by jewelers, or collectible gold bars and medallions. Other refiners sell their gold to manufacturers who will make the wholesale gold products or mass manufacturers, such as those who make jewelry for chain stores.
- Wholesale gold products are usually sold to distributors who will resell them in their niche markets. For example, edible gold leaf would be sold in the food industry while other gold leaf will be sold to art supplies or directly to artists.
There are costs involved in every process. Refining has one the highest costs because of the resources required to refine gold, remove the chaff, and the equipment to do this. Costs plus profit can add up to 20-percent to the price of the gold.
Every time the gold is processed and sold the business costs and profits add to the costs. By the time the physical gold is purchased it is possible that the cost of gold will be more than the spot price. That cost is justified because the item has some value added. Jewelry items add additional stones, other metals, the artist’s craftsmanship, and profit. Coin and medals also have similar value added to the final product.
Before your gold travels this road, the gold dealer looks to maximize his profit. If the dealer is working out of a hotel, they will have to earn enough to cover their rental fees and other expenses. Dealers with established storefronts may be able to offer better prices since they already have a revenue stream they can count on for expenses.
Testing the Waters
To determine what dealers consider a fair price for the gold, my friend and I tried an experiment. We went to six dealers to get their quotes and compare our findings. We went to the same dealers on different days by one trying to sell the gold in bulk by putting everything in a signal bag and bringing it to the dealers. Then we tried to sell the gold buy sorting by quality of the gold (e.g., 14 karat, 18 karat, etc.). Since we wanted their input, my friend and I agreed not to negotiate with the dealers.
One Saturday, my friend picked up the bag of gold and went to six different types of dealers. Two had storefronts, one temporarily rented the first five feet of a storefront in a local mall, and the others we met in a hotel conference rooms. On Sunday, I went to the same dealers but with the gold sorted by fineness in different envelopes. We went to dealers neither of us had any previously association. We also went to the Baltimore area to avoid D.C.-area coin dealers, most of whom I have met before.
What We Observed
With the spot price of gold closing at $1,220 on Friday afternoon, the gold was worth $3,550.20 retail. The offers were varied and interesting:
| Dealer | Bulk Offer (pct of spot) |
Sorted Offer (pct of spot) |
| Dealer 1 (jewelry store) | $2,300 (64.7%) | $2,500 (70.4%) |
| Dealer 2 (coin shop) | $2,500 (70.4%) | $2,700 (76.1%) |
| Dealer 3 (hotel #1) | $1,500 (42.2%) | $1,500 (42.2%) |
| Dealer 4 (hotel #2) | $1,750 (49.2%) | $1,700 (47.8%) |
| Dealer 5 (hotel #3) | $1,300 (36.6%) | $1,450 (40.8%) |
| Dealer 6 (temp mall shop) | $1,600 (45.1%) | $1,600 (45.1%) |
Although we agreed not to negotiate with the dealers, neither of us could help ourselves. My friend kept a sheet with out calculations handy to talk with the dealers and the envelopes I used to carry the separated gold had weights and estimates.
Because we went to the hotel dealers with information at hand, we think we received higher offers than others. It was common to watch the dealers pour the envelopes onto a try, weigh the items, then calculate a cost. It appears that the dealers are assuming all gold is an average of 12 karat and offer about 30-percent of the spot price.
Both the coin shop and jewelry store were more honest with their transaction. Both explained the differences in the quality of the gold and how it is calculated. While they did not take the care to weigh and calculate the costs as my friend and I did, I thought both were doing their best to give us the best price. In fact, the jewelry storeowner asked about consigning a few pieces to sell as jewelry and not as bulk gold.
The three hotel dealers were the least friendly. They had a take-it-or-leave-it attitude and did not like it when we started to question their offer. Their offers were the lowest and even if I did not prepare before going, I would not do business with them. The mall shop clerk did not know what he was doing. He was trained in the process but did not understand anything other than the process.
Interestingly, the Dealers 3 and 4 recognized the jewelry the next day when I brought them in. After I told Dealer 4 he offered $50 less than he offered my friend, he sarcastically said he should offer $100 less or call the police.
The Final Result
After our discussion with the jeweler, we went to a local estate jewelry dealer to show him the items. Rather than selling the items in bulk, the dealer purchased three pieces as jewelry for resale and the rest as scrap gold. One of the pieces had other precious stones my friend thought were not real because that is what his grandmother had said. The jeweler knew better!
While discussing our experiment, the jewelry dealer said that he has heard the story before. The hotel dealers are usually out of town buyers who try to buy as low as possible. They have higher costs because of their travel and shipping of the gold. A brick-and-mortar store with an established supply chain has a lower cost structure for moving products and transferring the gold to refiners through established business channels. Also, jewelers can opt to purchase older jewelry for resale, which will pay more money than spot gold prices.
When we walked out of the jewelry shop, my friend felt that the only way he would get a better deal was to try to sell the gold using an online auction site. We both agreed that selling to the estate jeweler was easier.
Recommendation
Based on our experience and the anecdotal evidence from others, do not try to sell your gold to a dealer in a hotel or one with a temporary storefront. These people are looking for the maximum profit in the least amount of time regardless of what you are trying to sell.
Coin dealers are a good middle-range buyer. But it is better to bring them coins than scrap gold.
Nothing could compare with the treatment by the jewelers, especially the one that specializes in estate jewelry. You may think you have old scrap items from grandma’s estate, but the jeweler can tell you otherwise. I would recommend taking jewelry you think is just scrap gold to an estate jewelry dealer. My friend did very well.
Whatever you decide to do, educate yourself before trying this on your own. I am convinced that we would have received lower offers if we just walked in off the street without the research.
No Taxpayer Money Is Used by the US Mint
It looks like the pundits have run wild with the malarky that gins up crowds for an issue that should not be an issue. This one was started by John Green, someone with the credibility of a camera who posts videos for something he and his partner calls Vlog Brothers. Apparently, the vlog (video blog) is about whatever comes to their minds whether it is right or not.
In Green’s latest screed posted on YouTube he ruminates about how the “penny” is worthless and the U.S. Mint should not be producing them. In the comments to the video, he claims that he read two articles, one from The Washington Post and another from Consumer Affairs, about the alleged opportunity costs of the coin. In fact, The Washington Post article is an opinion piece and has limited value in the argument. What Green did not say is that both articles are over four years old. Apparently, he could not find anything more recent or factual.
I found the video on the The New York Times block of Stephen J. Dubner, a co-author of the Freakonomics books and journalist who like some of his other The New York Times brethren has issues with facts (e.g., Duke lacrosse case).
Starting with the grossly obvious: The United States Mint does not strike “pennies.” The coin is one cent and not a penny. The penny is the lowest denomination of the current British monetary system. Back when Alexander Hamilton devised the U.S. monetary system, the lowest British denomination was the Farthing, ¼ penny. Rather, Hamilton called the coins “cents” to distinguish the United States coins from the British coins.
But the name of the coin is a basic issue. The real measure of the alleged journalist’s muster is if he could look beyond the salacious drivel to discover the truth that may actually cause real thought and consideration from the public. If Green and Dubner would do their homework they will know that:
“Wait,” you might interrupt. “Aren’t these government agencies that are funded by congress?”
Yes, both the U.S. Mint and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing are bureaus under the Department of the Treasury whose budgets are approved by congress. However, the money that congress allocates to these bureaus are NOT taken from the general fund.
Both the U.S. Mint and the BEP are profit making bureaus. After manufacturing the money, it is sold at face value to the Federal Reserve for distribution to member banks and then to the public. The difference between the face value of the money and the cost to manufacture the money is the profit—called seigniorage. Even though the one cent and five cent coins cost more to manufacture than their face value, the U.S. Mint continues to generate profit from the sale of all coins sold to the Federal Reserve in addition to the sales of bullion and collectible coins.
According to the 2009 U.S. Mint Annual Report (covering Fiscal Year 2009: October 2008–September 2009), they earned $98.1 million in seigniorage. That is a profit of $98.1 million in a down economy!
When the U.S. Mint is paid by the Federal Reserve for the coins, a collector purchases collectibles directly from the U.S. Mint, or a bullion dealer buys bullion coins, the seigniorage is deposited into a special account called the United States Mint Public Enterprise Fund (PEF) as required by law (see 31 U.S.C. §5136). As sales are deposited in the PEF, the law requires that the U.S. Mint use the money in the PEF for budgetary reasons like to manufacture coins, maintain facilities, pay employees, etc. No tax money is deposited in the Public Enterprise Fund and the PEF is managed like all general accounts by the Treasury Department. In fact, excess profit is required to be deposited in the Treasury general fund.
There is a similar fund for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (see 31 U.S.C. §5142).
If the money that the U.S. Mint uses for all its operations is withdrawn from the PEF and if the PEF does not contain any tax receipts, then how does it hurt taxpayers if the U.S. Mint continues to manufacture one and five cent coins?
More philosophically, it is “[the] primary mission of the United States Mint is to produce an adequate volume of circulating coinage for the nation to conduct its trade and commerce.” This is done by striking coins that are ordered by the Federal Reserve System for placing into commerce. If the Federal Reserve only orders coins they need to sell to member banks, then why is does Federal Reserve Currency and Coin Services order so many one cent coins? If they are useless and cannot buy much, why do they keep ordering more cents?
It is unfortunate that a journalist chose to support his fact deprived argument using an editorially questionable YouTube video.
Ending the Summer
As we come to the end of the summer season with the beginning of school, the ramping up of work, and the start of football season, it is time to settle down into a routine. As much as most of us do not like the hum-drum of a routine, it is inevitable.
For your humble blogger, I also want to settle into a routine or regular postings but I am looking for some interesting things to write about. I know I have not visited many shows lately or made many purchases, but there has to be more to numismatics than my purchases. So I am asking you, the over 600 unique visitors (according to Google Analytics) who read my posts, what would you like me to write about? What do you want to read?
I will say that I have been working on a note about the trials and tribulations of selling gold. A friend tried to sell some old gold jewelry and gold commemorative coins. It was an eye opening experience! I want to let everyone know what I learned and how you can avoid getting taken!
Otherwise, I will not make any suggestions to steer the discussion in any direction. I want to make this blog as interesting, instructional, and entertaining for you to read as it is for me to write. Tell me… respond to this post and leave a comment.
I hope everyone had a good summer and Labor Day weekend!